something interesting for Reebok, just to show how well they are doing, in a consumer poll recently, asked the question of favorite shoe manufacter, Reebok won with 36%, Nike had like 31%, NB had 26% and Adidas had 5%.


As for the shoes, I will be getting some, but I bet stores have them cheaper than 199, plus I think I found someone whom can sign me up for the Alliance thing and I can get them for 130....if I can, I will let everyone know and possibly we can make some deals!





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oh, just in the spirit of Reebok pics, here is a pic of the ORIGINAL DMX shoe, the DMX Run, I have a pair of these, but they are used, if anyone has a pair or knows of one, let me know!

Hmmm, that poll sounds a bit dubious to me. If Reebok is tops in preference why are global sales

1. Nike (2001 sales est. at over $9 billion)
2. adidas (2001 sales est. at $5.3 billion)
3. Reebok (2001 sales est. at $2.99 billion)

?

You can get any result you want in a poll, the bottom line is results. No doubt that Reebok is doing well with A.I., but they're still nowhere near as big as Nike or adidas.

On the X-Beam, I'm a bit concerned. From the release it sounds as though cushioning is somehow provided via the plastic material in the X-Beam structure and the 3D Ultralite in the outsole/midsole. Has anyone actually seen/held the shoe? Is there an internalized midsole that provides cushioning? If not I'm afraid that I may be in for some shin pain when it comes time to review the shoe.

Here's one that in my opinion is one of Reeboks best designed basketball shoes with the Pump.







I believe that they're called Insta Pump Hoop Fury, a b-ball version of the Insta Pump Furys. If I could only find a pair!!!

Well adidas is bigger worldwide, but U.S. sales Reebok is ahead. Obviously they aren't at Nikes level of 9 billion when they are at 3, but they are growing and last year gained 2 percent of total market share. And my point was that they are gaining more and more momentum and popularity.

oh, those bball shoe pics, they are the Reebok Romulus officially, but they are basically the hoop fury.....some sweet shoes, classic big man shoes.

fellaz, don't get your hopes up, I've seen those shoes in person at a show in Bologna, and they look fruity as hell. You ain't gonna catch me sportin em. I appreciate what Reebok is tryin to do, but they have some work to do on this concept, way too bulbous. Plus, Reeboks are garbage anyway... Always have been, always will be... I can't believe I saw somebody givin props to the Shaqnosis in this post, that is one one the most disgusting shoes of all time. Damn.
Dmxfury is still my dogg though...

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Ouch! Alphaproject laying the smack down in a big way.

Hey, you have to respect DMX Fury for sticking up for Reebok, he doesn't get much support around these parts, but doesn't ever (or at least rarely) goes off on folks.

Much love to both of you guys -- both long-time NTers.

I'll stick up for Reebok here too! I own a hell of a lot more Nikes than Reeboks, but I've personally found that DMX (especially in the OG DMX Runs (as shown above) and the Iverson 2s) is one of THE best cushioning technologies available. I've seen some people on here refer to it as "Air Feet You Wear", and that's exactly how I describe it to people. It's a positive. Feet You Wear is a good technology, which I've found very effective in hoops shoes. And we all know & love Air (or we wouldn't be using this messageboard so much!). Thus a combination of the 2 has almost got to be good! And it is. And although I haven't seen any of these new Reeboks in person (and knowing the Australian shoe market, I may not!), I really like the look of the design, & have high hopes for the technology. The price seems stiff, but so be it. And competition for Nike can only help us shoefreaks when it comes to innovation. Right?

Phil.

Some Big Hurt's, from the Mobius collection...sigh.





And BTW, page 5, yes!

Some more from the Mobius...this pair isn't in the best colorway. The best had the medial/lateral combination so that if you were running one way, it looked like your shoes were black/white...then if you turned and ran the other they were white/black.

hey thanks alpha, we have already talked about Reebok before, I know your stand on them, but at least you still give me props, so its all cool. I am telling ya, someday when I am close to running things at Reebok, if you aren't already a head designer somewhere, I am hiring you for an obscene amount of money to be ours, haha. Anyway, the reason I don't ever go off on people about not liking Reebok is that I respect their opinion. I will admit Reebok has made some awful shoes, and it has been tough at times being a fan of Reebok (1995-1997). I just fell in love with them though in 94 with the Fury, I just am in love with the design and function of the shoe. Plus, I am a fan of the DMX, and I think Reebok is doing a good job with the Iverson collection. Now only if they can market Francis a little better, bring out some better mid priced-high end bball shoes besides the Answers and we could be in business. But seriously, I actually would rather have the opinions of people whom dislike Reebok because it is more valuable to learn from mistakes and try to correct them. I love shoes

About that poll you mentioned earlier dmxfury, it all depends on what poll you like to look at. Because I also saw a poll about brand loyalty, and New Balance was number one. Don't forget, this is asking a limited number of people their preference. Polls are really never accurate. Reebok's doing good, but so is Nike and so is new balance, and I guess so is adidas. And every single one of them has plans on outdoing the other. You can't tell me Nike's not taking those threats from Reebok and NB and adidas seriously. When you're number one, and you read these articles like how adidas plans to steal 20% market share from Nike, you know they're working on stuff, and I do think in the long run it's good for us, don't you? But I can't agree with you and footscape on the props for those Diamond shoes. They really do look weird. But that's my opinion on them, and I can't see how revolutionary they'll be.

I also wanna say that while I hate Reebok too, I respect your opinion also, because that's the kind of person I am, and like you I don't jump down people's throats because they say something I don't like. I sure hope you achieve your dream of working at Reebok, it seems like you've wanted to do that forever. One word of advice, if you do get a job there, don't go in and start talking about what you'll be doing when you're running the place. lol You won't get high up the ladder that way. No exec is going to want to promote someone who's plotting to take their job. lol

If I were an exec with any shoe company, I would be on this board constantly looking for talent. You can find it all right here, designers, marketers, technical experts, and a ton of eager shoe testers. Screw Monster.com and HotJobs, there should be a career section on NikeTalk. They could put it in the lounge with General and Sports. I would definitely put my resume on there. DMX may want to work for Reebok, but seriously, I would take a job with Dada if it meant getting my foot in the industry door.

I would love to work for Nike, but that's just a dream, and it isn't what I've always wanted to do when I got out of school either, it's one of those things that you think"wouldn't it be awesome if I worked there" but you don't seriously consider. I seriously think I could make Nike an even stronger company, because I look and see the criticisms people have with Nike, like for example the runners that used to wear Nike but now wear asics and new balance, and I would work towards building a stronger line towards the very serious runner. I'm sure though there are other people that have the same ideas I do that actually are aiming to work for Nike, and I hope they get the job there someday.

Im not a big fan of Reebok but for some reason I am really looking forward to getting the Xbeams. It intrigues me more than the VC shox no offense. I cant wait.

Dmxfury, I have a couple of reebok designs and I am hoping to get a digital camera or something and i'll send them to you for the website. they look okay.

good point MJ, I guess I should be quiet about my ambitions. The thing with Nike, is I know they are working on new stuff, which is why I hate them in so many ways. To compare to wrestling, which I hate to do but I will, the WCW was top dog for a while, and what did they do? Get lazy. Now the WWF is top dog, and their programming has gone down in quality. Nike seems to be an exception, they are the top dog, but aren't slowing down, its as if they simply want to not only run the table, but own the table! Their first asset is Eric Avar, whom is the greatest shoe designer ever to live, his ideas are so revolutionary, it should be illegal. Thats why I respect Nike, they don't sit at the top basking in glory, they keep on finding new products and technologies.

AirDong - can't wait to see the pics, I myself have drawn about 30-40 shoes, half nike and half reebok.


And about that poll on brand loyalty, it was on the same article I read the poll, but it was not brand loyalty, the poll was titled differently. Once again, I only bring it up just to show that they are obviously not as popular as nike, but they have gained popularity from 3 years ago and are leaps ahead from where they were 5 years ago...

Just to briefly return to the Mobius collection, can anyone post pics of the Rails (Big Dog used to wear them)? I had a pair that I bought the same time as the Bursts, but someone pinched them, & I've been pining for them ever since...

Phil.

dmx,That comparison about wrestling is very true. And it happens all the time to companies that hit number one. Usually companies get lazy once they reach the top and don't work hard to stay there. Nike on the other hand while they're number one, continues to research and innovate like they were number 2 trying to take the number one slot, and that's one of the best things about the company. They aren't lazy, they continue to innovate and will do anything to stay number one. Don't forget, (you know this, but others don't) that entering the 80s, Nike was number one, then along came Reebok as a new company and pushed them to #2 in the mid 80s, and by the late 80s Nike worked their way back to #1. Nike already knows what it's like to fall from the top, and they don't want that to happen again. They've gotten very smart over time I think.

If that new Diamond Collection doesn't get 'Bok back in it, these puppies should be able to.

[Thanks alot to AnswerIVDMX for letting me get past the gates ( ) for these pics. Without him, this couldn't be possible.]





Above the Rim- Designed and engineered for athletes who truly play basketball above the rim.





Blacktop Street-inspired basketball collection, designed and engineered for athletes and the lifestyle that is spent on, and around the blacktop. Built for strength, toughness, speed, desire and the "Love of the game".

BTW, in my parent's closet I think my dad has those Glenn Robinson's y'all talk about, in burgundy, black and white, with the Hexalite in the heel and the inner bootie. Very comfortable, I'd probably have to post a pic.